Great Shades of 1984: Can The Earth Really Be Any Shape You Want?
Post Modern Mental Clift Note Fracking
NASA sells high in the sky apple pie lies so you must now understand that this means incontrovertibly that the Earth is flat.
How many who consider flat earth ever stop and study the claims of mainstream cosmology and astronomy first?
How many prefer to let others do their studying for them instead?
How many can simply admit that the lack of a map means it's highly unlikely the Earth is really flat?
Proportion and perspective matter and observation of the real world shows that this place is better described as a globe.
Masts disappear over the horizon as advertised, despite obvious Hollywood special effected NASA lies. The celestial lights in the heavens ascend and descend in a manner consistent with a globe. Is it not wiser to check into the claims we are told? High flying passenger jets arc overhead in a manner consistent with an earth that is round and not flat instead. One can go outside and look around, from mountain top to ocean beach ground, using a globe or maps projected from that sphere to travel far away or to travel near. There is no working flat earth map nor a model to look at. In order to accept a model-less faith, one must also accept a turntable like plate. Straight is now two dimensionally round. Instead of being too small relative to three dimensional curvature we must now have faith that such flat earth circular curvature is two dimensionally sound.. How does the spotlight like Sun rise and set in merry go round fashion that makes no sense? Ambient luminance leaked from flat world solar spotlight, would seem to mean that there'd be some kind of extra glow at night.
Collectively Crafting 21st Century Identity Products
The flat earth theory and not the people who consider such things, is very problematic. This is about ideas and not personas or identity. The recent multimedia barrage of various identity products, including flat earth, seems to me to scream that outer space is no place anyone can ever visit. Instead of Lunar colonies and going on personal Star Treks, people can play genderless reassignment guessing games and get hooked on all sorts of officially sanctioned chemical and operational procedures sold as identity amplification. I am of the feeling that if there were new frontiers to explore we'd be given identity products to reflect that. Historically this was always the case and if outer space were a empirical place we could visit, I think it's clear that the educational system would have been shifted to mold new minds for the all important space mission.
Insisting Something Is So Does Not Make It So Even If You Use The Word "Please"
Atmospheric refraction does not magnify, it causes the light to rotate and that also supports the globe model. Claiming that atmospheric refraction acts like a magnifying glass is what is called ad hoc reasoning and is an example of fallacious logic. Human beings in general, (all of us) tend to lean towards superstitious style reasoning even when we should know better. Humanity has long been shepherded by those who understand how to manipulate basic human nature. We need not resort to long standing conspiracies to explain basic human nature we all share. Too many of us seem to confuse the historical role groups like Jesuits and Freemasons traditionally played in constructing civilization centuries ago with the world of layers and layers of corporate governance of today's ultra-modern/post-modern world. These traditions are foundational to our world but no longer play the roles they once did and no longer do these literal organizations have the power they would seem to have once actually possessed in terms of global influence. The Anglo American round tables of Tragedy and Hope and Rhodes style business and world banking leadership/scholarship, global governance and other quite mainstream foundations and organizations of all sorts have replaced secret societies with commercialized enterprise that derive from prior traditional ritual.
Whatever the deal is or isn't with flat earth leaders, the media uses flat earth to discredit criticism of mainstream science and obvious NASA stage magic illusion. Flat earth propaganda has been used in this manner for a long time.
The flat earth theory is a very fallacious one that produces a world as cartoonishly complex in many ways as the patchwork comic book multiverse of quantum foaming dark mattered energy and black holy cosmic fallacy sold as science. The lack of a working model and map is a huge clue that flat earth should not be termed a theory.
1994 WIRED Magazine
An emerging "wired" internet meme begins to grow like a cancer with the mainstream press promoting it all along.
(Please note I am not advocating an kind of suppression of personal expression, nor do I seek to tell others what to write about, think about or discuss. I am not for censorship. I think ideas can and should be allowed to "speak" for themselves and that exposure to different ideas, however they may make you feel, is a good thing.)
September 1, 1994 WIRED:
"THE WRONG STUFF"
"Nonetheless, hoax believers can be found in many parts of society, here and abroad. According to Oberg, Cuban children are officially taught that Yankee space technology failed miserably and that NASA was reduced to pitifully faking every single lunar landing. Some New Agers also contest the possibility of moon landings, as do Hare Krishnas. Non-mainstream Christians at the Flat Earth Society - a Lancaster, California-based anti-science group of about 3,500 members - contest the entire field of astronomy (not to mention moon landings). They liken the towering launch pads to the Tower of Babel."
source: The Wrong Stuff | WIRED
July 22, 1994
"Charles Johnson, president of the anti-space Flat Earth Society, said the hoax was exposed in the 1978 film Capricorn One, in which the United States fakes a Mars landing. One actor in that film was the former football star O J Simpson, who is now accused of two murders. According to Mr Johnson, the film "proved the entire government space programme is a hoax. They're finally going after O J because he helped unmask the space hoax." "
For a list of headlines from the 1931 to today:
Flat Earth Mainstream Media Coverage Since 1931: Great Marshall McLuhan's Ghost!
image source and full article: Voliva Challenge
The Pre 9/11 World: An LA Times Obituary Peddling Empty Nonsense
Think you'll get a 'free press' obit like this?
Is this what controlled lunacy looks like?
"Charles Johnson; Longtime Leader of Flat Earth Society"
March 25, 2001 | MYRNA OLIVER | TIMES STAFF WRITER
"We have studied the Earth," he assured anybody who would listen, "and found it flat."
"That plane Earth, he insisted, is of unknown dimensions, a disc with the North Pole in the center and impenetrable Arctic ice 150 feet high all the way around. The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle the disc at a steady height of 3,000 miles, with so-called rising or setting only an optical illusion. Charles K. Johnson, irrepressible advocate and president of the International Flat Earth Society for nearly three decades, has died. He was 76.
Johnson died March 19 in Lancaster, near Hi Vista, where he had moved the iconoclastic society's headquarters in 1972 after he succeeded the late Samuel Shenton of Dover, England, in the presidency. The ever-quotable Johnson also wrote and published the entertaining if somewhat eccentric Flat Earth News, which once boasted 3,500 subscribers. His Flat Earth Society has ambiguous historical roots but is in spirit related to the Universal Zetetic (investigative) Society founded in England in 1832 by Sir Birley Rowbotham, who wrote "Earth Not a Globe." Advocates have traditionally used carefully chosen Bible passages to substantiate their assertions, supplemented by purportedly scientific observations of bodies of water. About 1888, England's Sir Walter de Sodington Blount and his wife made a series of experiments on a canal called Old Bedford Level, proving, they said, that the Earth had no curvature. Almost a century later, Johnson and his late Australian-born wife and chief adjunct, Marjory, checked the surfaces of Lake Tahoe and the Salton Sea. Like the Blounts, they couldn't see any curve either, thus reassuring themselves that the Earth is flat. Johnson was 8 and living in San Angelo, Texas, when he made his commitment to the flat Earth theory. He spun a globe in his class, concluded that what his textbook said about gravitation was absurd and gazed at a nearby lake, observing no curve.
"Obviously water's flat, isn't it?" he said in a Times interview in 1992. "They're trying to tell you this water's bent!" Asked why don't people fall off if the Earth if flat, Johnson would patiently explain, "There is no edge. As far as we know, it's endless." "Australians," he once elaborated in the Flat Earth News, "do not hang by their feet underneath the world!"
Before moving 20 miles east of Lancaster to a Mojave Desert cabin with its own generator and water tank, Johnson had worked 25 years as an airplane mechanic in San Francisco. He ran the Flat Earth Society within a figurative stone's throw of Edwards Air Force Base, a crucible for National Aeronautics and Space Administration programs.
But he was unfazed by aeronautics or the space program. He discounted filmed walks on the moon beginning with Neil Armstrong's "giant leap for mankind" on July 20, 1969, snorting: "Anyone flying that far would freeze to death." Johnson insisted that the moon missions and the whole space program were a hoax scripted by science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke and filmed at Meteor Crater in Arizona. When the space shuttle Columbia first landed next door at Edwards in 1981, he scoffed: "This airplane landed, but it's just a simple, stupid old airplane carried piggyback and dropped over Lancaster. . . . It hasn't orbited the Earth--that we know."
Just as glibly, Johnson dismissed the scientists who first convinced human beings that they were clinging to a spinning globe: Polish astronomer Nicolaus Copernicus, who 500 years ago theorized that the planets revolve around the sun and that the global Earth turns on its axis; Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei, who used a telescope to prove that Copernicus knew what he was talking about; and England's philosopher mathematician Sir Isaac Newton, who established the laws of gravity and motion.
"Scientists consist of the same old gang of witch doctors, sorcerers, tellers of tales, the 'priest-entertainers' for the common people," Johnson said in the Flat Earth News. " 'Science' consists of a weird, way-out occult concoction of gibberish theory-theology . . . unrelated to the real world of facts, technology and inventions, tall buildings and fast cars, airplanes and other real and good things in life."
"Christopher Columbus was a flat Earth believer too, Johnson told The Times, discussing events of 1492: "He had enough sense to know that if the world was a ball, he would have fallen off."
March 25, 2001 | MYRNA OLIVER | TIMES STAFF WRITER
The Post 9/11 Flat World Faith or Fate?
The mainstream media has been pushing Flat Earth since at least a few years after 9/11. The mainstream media is the source of all sorts of cockeyed mythology many seem to enjoy like tabloid inspired mystery science fiction theater puzzles. Online mainstream media seems to love promoting flat earth, antisemitism and Nazi style conspiracy porn. I am not accusing anyone of being a shill, I just do think a clue might have to do with all the free press flat earth seems to receive. No conspiracy theory needed to explain yellow journal tendencies of the tabloid press. Perhaps many of the flat earth shepherds are merely smart marketers who figured out ways to get some free attention by way of a tabloid media noise machine forever seeking mental fare to sell as commercial ware.
2004: The Earth Falls Flat
"In 2004, Daniel Shenton (not related to Samuel) resurrected the Flat Earth Society, basing it around a web-based discussion forum. This eventually led to the official relaunch of the society in October 2009, and the creation of a new Web site, featuring a public collection of Flat Earth literature and a wiki Moreover, the society began accepting new members for the first time since 2001, with musician Thomas Dolby becoming the first member to join the newly reconvened society. As of July 2014, over 500 people from all around the globe have become members. In 2013, part of this society broke away to form a new web-based group also featuring a forum and wiki.""
"California-based punk rock band Bad Religion include a song titled "Flat Earth Society", by Brett Gurewitz, on their album Against the Grain (1990)."
Flat Earth Society - Bad Religion (w/ lyrics) source: K Austin
Before 2010 There Was 2001: A Spaced Out Surrounded Sound
"Moreover, the (Flat Earth) society began accepting new members for the first time since 2001, with musician Thomas Dolby becoming the first member to join the newly reconvened society. "
As far back as 2010 the mainstream media was giving free press to a Flat Earth resurgence.
"In popular culture
The Flat Earth Society's most recent world model, proposing that humanity lives on a disc, is identical to the flag of the United Nations.
Richard A. Lupoff's novel Circumpolar! (1984) describes a flat Earth, with a hole at the centre instead of a North Pole, and the underside contains fictional lands such as Atlantis and Lemuria.
In 1984, English musician Thomas Dolby released an album called The Flat Earth. This became the name for his fan club and subsequent website forums. Daniel Shenton credited this album as his introduction to the theory, and offered the first membership of the reopened Society. Dolby, while not a believer, accepted.
California-based punk rock band Bad Religion include a song titled "Flat Earth Society", by Brett Gurewitz, on their album Against the Grain (1990). A prominent feature of the song is the refrain "lie, lie, lie," indicating a strong denunciation of the society and its theories.
In 2013, while discussing the importance of acting on climate change, President Barack Obamasaid there was no time for "a meeting of the Flat-Earth Society" in reference to climate change deniers.
Rapper B.o.B composed a song titled "Flatline", in which he claims the Earth is flat, and promotes other conspiracy theories. He was offered, and accepted, membership in the Flat Earth Society.
In 2017, former basketball player Shaquille O'Neal claimed on his podcast that the Earth was flat. A few days later, he stated that this was a joke: "this world we live in people take things too seriously". "
"In 2004, Daniel Shenton (not related to Samuel)[ resurrected the Flat Earth Society, basing it around a web-based discussion forum. This eventually led to the official relaunch of the society in October 2009, and the creation of a new Web site, featuring a public collection of Flat Earth literature and a wiki Moreover, the society began accepting new members for the first time since 2001, with musician Thomas Dolby becoming the first member to join the newly reconvened society. As of July 2014, over 500 people from all around the globe have become members. In 2013, part of this society broke away to form a new web-based group also featuring a forum and wiki.""
"Flat Earth Society Says Evidence Of Round Planet Part Of Vast Conspiracy Theory"
October 29, 2012
By: Natalie Wolchover, Staff Writer
Published: 10/29/2012 08:17 AM EDT on Lifes Little Mysteries
"Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat. Walking around on the planet’s surface, it looks andfeels flat, so they deem all evidence to the contrary, such as satellite photos of Earth as a sphere, to be fabrications of a “round Earth conspiracy” orchestrated by NASA and other government agencies.
The belief that the Earth is flat has been described as the ultimate conspiracy theory. According to the Flat Earth Society’s leadership, its ranks have grown by 200 people (mostly Americans and Britons) per year since 2009. Judging by the exhaustive effort flat-earthers have invested in fleshing out the theory on their website, as well as the staunch defenses of their views they offer in media interviews and on Twitter, it would seem that these people genuinely believe the Earth is flat.
But in the 21st century, can they be serious? And if so, how is this psychologically possible?
Through a flat-earther’s eyes
First, a brief tour of the worldview of a flat-earther: While writing off buckets of concrete evidence that Earth is spherical, they readily accept a laundry list of propositions that some would call ludicrous. The leading flat-earther theory holds that Earth is a disc with the Arctic Circle in the center and Antarctica, a 150-foot-tall wall of ice, around the rim. NASA employees, they say, guard this ice wall to prevent people from climbing over and falling off the disc. Earth’s day and night cycle is explained by positing that the sun and moon are spheres measuring 32 miles (51 kilometers) that move in circles 3,000 miles (4,828 km) above the plane of the Earth. (Stars, they say, move in a plane 3,100 miles up.) Like spotlights, these celestial spheres illuminate different portions of the planet in a 24-hour cycle. Flat-earthers believe there must also be an invisible “antimoon” that obscures the moon during lunar eclipses."
Flat Earth In Dolby Stereo™
THOMAS DOLBY (THE FLAT EARTH) source: Albert Valenzuela
1984: Flat Earth
"The Flat Earth is the second album by Thomas Dolby. It was released in February 1984, peaking at #14 on the UK Albums Chart. The first single from the album was "Hyperactive!", which peaked at #17 in the UK Singles Chart, making it Dolby's highest-charting single in his home country. Second and third singles, "I Scare Myself" and "Dissidents (The Search For Truth)", peaked at #46 and #90 respectively. The album charted at #35 in America.
A remastered "Collector's Edition" of The Flat Earth was released on 13 July 2009, complete with bonus tracks and new sleeve notes."
source: The Flat Earth - Wikipedia
The Earth is flat? What planet is he on?
February 23, 2010
"The Flat Earth Society has become a byword for sticking your head in the sand, whatever the scientific facts. David Adam tries to make sense of its new president, Daniel Shenton"
"Daniel Shenton should be the most irrational man in the world. As the new president of the Flat Earth Society, you'd imagine he would also think that evolution is a scam and global warming a myth. He should argue that smoking does not cause cancer and HIV does not lead to Aids.
Yes, that Flat Earth Society, a group that has become a living metaphor for backward thinking and a refusal to face scientific facts. Yes, it is still going, and no, this isn't an early April fool.
In fact, Shenton turns out to have resolutely mainstream views on most issues. The 33-year-old American, originally from Virginia but now living and working in London, is happy with the work of Charles Darwin. He thinks the evidence for man-made global warming is strong, and he dismisses suggestions that his own government was involved with the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
He is mainstream on most issues, but not all. For when Shenton rides his motorbike, he says it is not gravity that pins him to the road, but the rapid upward motion of a disc-shaped planet. Countries, according to him, spread across this flat world as they appear to do on a map, with Antarctica as a ring of mountains strung around the edge. And, yes, you can fall off.
If you thought that flat Earthism was gone, think again. The scientific evidence is stacked against Shenton, obviously, just as it is against those who think global warming is a hoax and that the dead stalk the Earth as ghosts – but that doesn't appear to trouble him in the least.
"There is no unified flat Earth model," Shenton suggests, "but the most commonly accepted one is that it's more or less a disc, with a ring of something to hold in the water. The height and substance of that, no one is absolutely sure, but most people think it's mountains with snow and ice."
The Earth is flat, he argues, because it appears flat. The sun and moon are spherical, but much smaller than mainstream science says, and they rotate around a plane of the Earth, because they appear to do so.
Inevitably, Shenton's argument forces him down all kinds of logical blind alleys – the non-existence of gravity, and his argument that most space exploration, and so the moon landings, are faked. But, while many flat Earthers have problems with the idea of orbiting satellites, Shenton navigates the London streets using GPS. He was also happy to fly from the US to Britain, but says an aircraft that flew over the Antarctic barrier would drop from the sky, and from the planet.
The Flat Earth Society was originally formed as the Universal Zetetic Society in 1884, after the Greek word zeteo, "to seek". Zeteticism, Shenton says, emphasises experience and reason over the "trusting acceptance of dogma" – or, it seems, overwhelming evidence. Only a personal trip into space to see the world as it is for himself would persuade him. "But even then, in seeing it, I would have to be convinced there weren't any tricks involved."
The International Flat Earth Society was formally founded in 1956. Shenton resurrected the society and claimed its presidency last year, following years of inaction after the death of former president Charles Johnson in 2001, who had some 3,000 registered followers. He has so far recruited 60 members through the society's website, which boasts about 9,000 visitors to its discussion forums.
"I can't say what everybody's motive is for joining, but there are quite a few who I know are as serious as I am," he says. "Lots of people log on once to hurl abuse but they tend to get bored and go away. We're not fanatical about it and we're not going to engage in pointless, angry discussions."
The website features scanned issues of the society's newsletter, the notorious Flat Earth News, from its 1970s and 80s heyday. Sample headlines include: Sun Is a Light 32 Miles Across, Australia Not Down Under, and World Is Flat and That's That.
"I thought it was a shame that all these documents would go unseen forever," Shenton says. But what about the evidence? In an age where astronauts send photographs of a spherical planet from an orbiting space station, how can the concept of a flat Earth persist?
"Look at what special effects are capable of: you can produce any photograph, any video. I don't think there is solid proof. I'm not intentionally being stubborn about it, but I feel our senses tell us these things, and it would take an extraordinarily level of evidence to counteract those. How many people have actually investigated it? Have you?"
Last year, Shenton did just that, travelling to a six-mile stretch of straight water along the Old Bedford River in Norfolk, the scene of many infamous flat Earth experiments. "There should have been curvature, but I didn't see what mainstream science says should have been there," he says.
Shenton's critics, it should be pointed out, can fall back on spherical trigonometry and astronomical observations that date right back to Aristotle in 330BC. In fact, the idea of a flat Earth was widespread only until about the fourth century BC, when the Ancient Greeks first proposed it was a sphere. By the Middle Ages, most people in Europe were convinced, contrary to popular stories. "A lot of the stuff about Columbus isn't true; there weren't mutinies about whether they would fall off the Earth," Shenton says.
The modern Flat Earth movement dates back to Victorian England, and biblical literalist Samuel Rowbotham and his followers, who promoted their cause by engaging top scientists of the day in public debate.
Shenton himself used to accept that the Earth was round, but began asking questions after hearing musician Thomas Dolby's 1984 album The Flat Earth. (When Shenton reconvened the society last year, Dolby accepted membership number 00001.) "It was the late 1990s and I started doing research into what the Flat Earth Society was. I had heard of it and, when I did some more research, I eventually ended up believing its ideas were true."
It may sound like Shenton is playing games, that the reborn society is a clever metaphor or marketing tool for another cause – but he insists he is serious.
"I haven't taken this position just to be difficult. To look around, the world does appear to be flat, so I think it is incumbent on others to prove decisively that it isn't. And I don't think that burden of proof has been met yet." "
Was That Dissidents or Dissonance?
Hard to hear with all the multimedia noise.
The Dissonance song is kind of boring. This one seems a bit more fun. Lyric link for those with interest, above. That song is from Dolby's 1984 album. The one below is from Dolby's album: "The Golden Age of Wireless"
Thomas Dolby - (She Blinded Me by Science) (Extended & Original Versions) HD Audio source: Metal Wolf Music
Where are you on this spectrum?
"Averroes classified people as of three categories:
1. the demonstrative class, which is capable of strict reasoning and demonstration according to Aristotle’s laws of logic;
2. the dialectical class, which is satisfied with the plausible opinions general to thoughtful people; and
3. the rhetorical class, who are persuaded simply by what they are told and whose views cannot stand up to criticism.
It is to the last and second, according to his view, that the apparent readings of Scripture are addressed, and not so much for their enlightenment as for their moral control and improvement. For such folk cannot grasp philosophical demonstrations and, if unsettled in their minds, would be morally undone."
source: Creative Mythology page 142 (Joseph Campbell)